Wednesday, August 21, 2013

The Mind's Eye


In a recent comment, Dee told how she had went from a long haired rocker to a short haired biker (at least in looks).  This was in response to telling everyone that I used to sport a mullet.

Part of her comment got me thinking though... she asked "How in general DID you picture Damien and Dee? How do you picture other members of the other blog?"  And of course she even suggested that perhaps the answer would make for a fun post.

Well... here is my response.  I'm not sure how in depth I'll go as I'm more or less writing this on the spur of the moment, but I'll try to cover several people and explain why I picture some people as women while I picture other's as men.

I guess first thing I should do is explain how I saw Caitlyn.  At first I really didn't have an image in mind for Caitlyn.  I just pressed most of my own desires onto her looks.  She'd have red hair, a shapely figure, high cheekbones, plump lips and a cute button nose.  Beyond that, I didn't really give it much thought.

But as time wore on, I started picking out avatars and even playing role playing games based on Caitlyn.  I believe that the first real look that 'Caitlyn' had in my mind (beyond a sexy masked woman)  was Faye Reagan.



Fantasy Caitlyn?
Naturally I chose a porn star.  I mean what fun would it be to picture myself as a sexy woman if I couldn't also picture myself as a sexy woman having sex?  But the longer that I played that character, the more the character separated from what I pictured my feminine persona as.  Faye more represented my character at DX who ended up being known as 'Miss Caitlyn'.

'Reality' Caitlyn?
For my own feminine self I started to picture a more down to earth look.  No huge breasts, no studiously applied makeup, no long multihighlighted hair.  More of a girl next door.  Was she attractive?  Well sure... I don't imagine there are many people picturing themselves as unattractive.  But she wouldn't be a model or actress, and certainly not a porn star.

Humorously enough, I never pictured my feminine self as age appropriate.  I'm nearing forty years old, but I originally pictured Caitlyn as being in her early 20s.  Later when I stared picturing Caitlyn as more of a down to earth girl, I started imagining her in her early 30s.  Closer to my age, but still quite a bit younger.

I'm touched... but no not really.
I just spent about 20 minutes looking through google and bing images for 'natural redhead' hoping to find someone that looked similar to what I pictured Caitlyn as, and the closest I could get was Julianne Moore.  Yeah yeah... I know she's actually older than me, but she still has that Hollywood sheen that shaves off a few decades.

Compared to Julianne Moore, I pictured Caitlyn as having a little more weight but a very similar jaw and lip line.  Obviously Julianne has a lot of different hairstyles, but I pictured Caitlyn as having fairly straight, fairly plain hair.  I just don't imagine that she'd have put much effort into her hair.  Ponytails would have been a common style.

Dee... less bitch, more fun!
So... that's how I pictured Caitlyn.  I don't really want to show off what I really look like as Calvin, but I've been told that I kind of resemble Drew Carey.  You know... the host of the Price Is Right?  I don't see it (beyond similar glasses), but that's what people say.

So that's 'me'.  Since Dee put this silly idea into my head, let's go ahead and talk about what I pictured her as.   For a long while, I only pictured her as 'Dementia'.  A young gothy bitchy (sorry... but it's true) girl.  Her hair would constantly be in flux, but almost always un-naturally black with a hint of neon color.

Not the young and angry Dee
As I got to know Dee more, I started softening the image in my mind.  Less bitchy and more fun/funny.  Still goth or emo or whatever those kids are calling it these days (get off my lawn!).  Something else happened as I got to know Dee more.  I started picturing less Dementia all together and more Damien.  I never mentally reffered to her as Damien or even mentally thought of calling her a guy, but I always pictured a guy.  That's about the time that I started referring to her as Dee.

There is no Mila, only Jennifer
As for what 'Dee' looks like... well after several quick searches using various terms, I came upon exactly what I've pictured Dee to look like.   And oddly enough, it's Henry Rollins.  Not the young over the top angry Henry Rollins, but the older more mature, more introspective and wise Henry Rollins.  I actually saw Henry Rollins once on his talking tour where he sits down on stage and just talks.  He talked about being the young Bushido warrior type with no possessions and no direction and how as he aged he really preferred having a nice soft bed.  Yeah... that's Dee.

If Simone smoked, this would be her. 
Next up, there's Jennifer.  I'd say that if there is anybody in this community that I know best, it's Jennifer.  And while I could probably paint a fairly close picture of what Jeremy looks like, I still can't picture her as anything but Mila Kunis.  Not the overly made up, movie style, glamour photography style model... just as Mila Kunis.  I imagine that started with Jennifer having a Mila Kunis avatar and it just stuck.

Leeanna as... Leeanne
Simone is a little harder to quantify.  I don't have a steady image of her in my mind.  The one thing that always hits me is that she's glamorous  Not overly bling laden... just classically and simply Glamorous.  I've pictured her as a blonde and red head before, but brunette seems to be the hair color that sticks the most.  If I had to put her in a particular style or era, it would be as a 1950's model.

Leeanne is a little harder as she has actual photographs of herself on her blog.  She's one of the first people that I've seen post images of themselves, so it's hard to NOT picture her as that.  It's funny though... even though Leeanne presents herself as a sissy, I still picture her and imagine her as a woman.

Smitty and Rauk are two of the more unusual cases as I've never pictured them.  When I think of them, I think of them as both every day usual guys, but neither of them have inspired a real mental image of what type of guy.  Either of them could say they are a 19 year old college kid or say they are a 65 year old retired marine pilot, and I'd just nod and accept that.

I could go on and on with other cap artists, but the ones I've chosen to talk about here are the most vivid images I have of anybody in this community.  When I think of Alectra, or Kaitlyn or Kendall, or Martha, or Evie, or anybody else, I don't have a static image or even gender in mind.  I picture them how they present themselves.

If I think of anybody else, I'll add to this post.  As for now, I have to run.

Love,
C

6 comments:

  1. I will definitely settle for contemplative Rollins, as I also have a big neck. I have been known to rant from time to time and was a HUGE Black Flag fan. I think my life parallels his quite nicely, except for the whole "best friend shot and killed in front of him" issues he had.

    Seemed weird though that you associate Dee with a guy. If I really did that with others here, I'd probably have some sort of weird brain cramp. I know what a number of Haven members look like yet I still make sure that my mind's eye sees them as their feminine persona.

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  2. I'm actually closer to 19 than 65, but seeing as your description of me as an "every day usual guy" is fairly accurate, I'd prefer it if you did think of me as a retired marine pilot. It makes me seem a lot more impressive and interesting.

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    1. You got it Captain! I will now forever picture you in a flight suit and helmet sitting behind your computer punching out some deep thought producing TG caps! Afterward we can all gather around the campfire and listen to your stories of flying low over Tora Bora bombing the hell out of al qaeda!

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  3. He I'm not that static, because I tend to be more dinamic with how I represent myself. If this serves. I think I've drawn myself as my last persona character Calliope (in my haven profile there is a somewhat lenghty explanation). And when I did this I also realized I was sharing many details - I believe some people where trying to pinpoint me on my RL social networks so that put me in an extra careful terrain about what I should share or not Just like you thought here - and I decided that I should start to leave the details somewhat vague to make it more difficult to grasp my RL persona. He I'm not a superheroine!

    Of course for those that I started to care like Kyra or Jennifer I shared some RL details in a more explicit way. I'm very experienced on how to surf the net and how to keep a low profile, but what happened to me a few months ago, that someone managed to find me in RL was like a rookie mistake. Hopefully I did ended blocking this person in the social network, wandering about if he found me or not.

    Perhaps I don't have a strong female character to be imagined because I never really questioned myself If I felt like a woman or not. At least my last psychologist figured out that my "female brain" was stronger than my "male brain". Just by talking to me. Of course this was previously before the whole Alectra adventure. I also asked my anthropologist professor about it (post Alectra adventure) and she said it was perfectly normal. It wasn't something about having different sexual tendencies, but something more complex. I'm still studying this so I cannot tell say more than that.

    Just like you I thought of depicting first an oversexualized strong character for Alectra, while being dominant and powerful. Unlike me. So no wonders no one can grasp me with that explanation.

    The Real me is more of a geeky, shy, kind, somewhat good looking - not really buying it - and with this I try to simplify a psychological aspect of me, but while I enjoy looking at erotic images, trying to depict me in a more grounded image is hard for me.

    Hugs and Kisses Alectra

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    1. That's just it... you don't have a single image or even style that comes up in my mind. I could easily picture you as a leather wearing dominatrix or a young submissive girl wearing a plain cotton dress. Both would be acceptable to me and neither wouldn't feel right.

      I'm sorry to hear that someone found your RL identity. That must have been pretty jarring!

      Picturing the 'real' Caitlyn wasn't something that happened by my own will. Whenever I implicitly imagined what Caitlyn would look like she was always an oversexualized version of a redhead. The 'real' version of her came about subconsciously and took quite a bit of time. I think the real problem with the 'real' version of Caitlyn was that I couldn't picture her being put into all the squirmy sexy scenarios that I or others invariably put her in.

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    2. Ouh yeah it was pretty jarring! But analyzing the situation I saw that this person didn't have really bad intentions, just contacted me first as Alectra, knowing me from the Haven. This person was from another country and this person knew spanish, which left me with the possibility it was latinoamerican, which indeed was.

      I also happened to know then who was this person and I blocked him for good! I believe this happened before I started to use a different email contact, and that somehow gmail left my real name for the people to see without me knowing. It was a matter of time this would happen, but I corrected it! The fact that this person could have access to which university I go, where do I make my living, what did I do that day or any day. Which friends contacts me everyday.. A bit scary too say the least.

      As said, because I didn't respond back to the message and just blocked it for good, this person has no way to tell if he found my RL or not. Not like I care. So for just good extra measures I disabled my old gmail account, took away the name information or anything else, lingering there and so far I hadn't been contacted again by this person, which are good news...

      For the other part. You can picture me as you want. In fact that would be funny to know how someone pictures me most of the time. Not just like some muppets cartoon! - I remember that one! - Perhaps as you said it's difficult to picture an exact image because of my tendency to be a switch between dom/sub. But I'm more lean to sub. That was all just a facade you know.. Just kidding. No really I'm more of a sub in roleplay ;)

      Hugs and Kisses Alectra

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